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	<title>Comments on: Overheard Today At Starbucks</title>
	<link>http://kevin.saff.net/2007/01/27/overheard-today-at-starbucks/</link>
	<description>some adventure</description>
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		<title>By: urzbkc</title>
		<link>http://kevin.saff.net/2007/01/27/overheard-today-at-starbucks/#comment-22938</link>
		<dc:creator>urzbkc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kevin.saff.net/2007/01/27/overheard-today-at-starbucks/#comment-22938</guid>
		<description>OPhENZ  &lt;a href="http://dywxqecnqoqe.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;dywxqecnqoqe&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OPhENZ  <a href="http://dywxqecnqoqe.com/" rel="nofollow">dywxqecnqoqe</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jennica</title>
		<link>http://kevin.saff.net/2007/01/27/overheard-today-at-starbucks/#comment-22733</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kevin.saff.net/2007/01/27/overheard-today-at-starbucks/#comment-22733</guid>
		<description>Real brain power on dilpasy. Thanks for that answer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real brain power on dilpasy. Thanks for that answer!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://kevin.saff.net/2007/01/27/overheard-today-at-starbucks/#comment-1117</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2003 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kevin.saff.net/2007/01/27/overheard-today-at-starbucks/#comment-1117</guid>
		<description>Yes, I am familiar with the Catholic Worker Movement, though more in its history than in its modern incarnation. That MP3 looks rather long, but I'll try to finish listening to it over the weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I am familiar with the Catholic Worker Movement, though more in its history than in its modern incarnation. That MP3 looks rather long, but I&#039;ll try to finish listening to it over the weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: John the Statistician</title>
		<link>http://kevin.saff.net/2007/01/27/overheard-today-at-starbucks/#comment-1116</link>
		<dc:creator>John the Statistician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kevin.saff.net/2007/01/27/overheard-today-at-starbucks/#comment-1116</guid>
		<description>"What is a religious progressive?" is a good question.  I don't a solid definition, but I do have a solid example:  http://longnow.chubbo.net/salt-feb02005-kennedy/salt-feb02005-kennedy.mp3

Also, I can make vague descriptive flailings if you think it would be helpful.  As a very crude shorthand, you the difference is believing that reaching openly to enable the least of these is more Christ-like than the vision of a stern protector, bunkering his family and friends in provisions while waiting for the end times[1].  To me, the cross symbolizes the of dropping all defences, arms wide open, from a position of ultimate power. 

Footnotes:

[1]George Lakoff takes an astoundingly crude stab at understanding this as a political difference in this talk (http://www.uctv.tv/search-details.asp?showID=11194).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;What is a religious progressive?&#034; is a good question.  I don&#039;t a solid definition, but I do have a solid example:  <a href="http://longnow.chubbo.net/salt-feb02005-kennedy/salt-feb02005-kennedy.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://longnow.chubbo.net/salt-feb02005-kennedy/salt-feb02005-kennedy.mp3</a></p>
<p>Also, I can make vague descriptive flailings if you think it would be helpful.  As a very crude shorthand, you the difference is believing that reaching openly to enable the least of these is more Christ-like than the vision of a stern protector, bunkering his family and friends in provisions while waiting for the end times[1].  To me, the cross symbolizes the of dropping all defences, arms wide open, from a position of ultimate power. </p>
<p>Footnotes:</p>
<p>[1]George Lakoff takes an astoundingly crude stab at understanding this as a political difference in this talk (http://www.uctv.tv/search-details.asp?showID=11194).</p>
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		<title>By: John the Statistician</title>
		<link>http://kevin.saff.net/2007/01/27/overheard-today-at-starbucks/#comment-1115</link>
		<dc:creator>John the Statistician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 2010 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kevin.saff.net/2007/01/27/overheard-today-at-starbucks/#comment-1115</guid>
		<description>Hey, I really like what those folks in the Catholic Worker Movement are doing, if you're familiar.  Also, http://hilbertastronaut.blogspot.com/ is a friend of mine who do some great Catholic things.  I think that if you wanted to reorganize the Catholic Church to be managed bottom-up instead of top-down, you'd end up with something very nearly Mennonite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I really like what those folks in the Catholic Worker Movement are doing, if you&#039;re familiar.  Also, <a href="http://hilbertastronaut.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://hilbertastronaut.blogspot.com/</a> is a friend of mine who do some great Catholic things.  I think that if you wanted to reorganize the Catholic Church to be managed bottom-up instead of top-down, you&#039;d end up with something very nearly Mennonite.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://kevin.saff.net/2007/01/27/overheard-today-at-starbucks/#comment-1112</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kevin.saff.net/2007/01/27/overheard-today-at-starbucks/#comment-1112</guid>
		<description>Most excellent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most excellent.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://kevin.saff.net/2007/01/27/overheard-today-at-starbucks/#comment-1111</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kevin.saff.net/2007/01/27/overheard-today-at-starbucks/#comment-1111</guid>
		<description>Jon, I trust this avatar is similar enough.

John: Jon is a Catholic convert.
Jon: John attends a Mennonite church.

(Something tells me I should implement those conflict-resolution features I've had in mind for this blog.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, I trust this avatar is similar enough.</p>
<p>John: Jon is a Catholic convert.<br />
Jon: John attends a Mennonite church.</p>
<p>(Something tells me I should implement those conflict-resolution features I&#039;ve had in mind for this blog.)</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://kevin.saff.net/2007/01/27/overheard-today-at-starbucks/#comment-1110</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2000 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kevin.saff.net/2007/01/27/overheard-today-at-starbucks/#comment-1110</guid>
		<description>The idea is the author of the post shows up in the same color/format as the post itself, though I admit this is a bit confusing with multiple blog authors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea is the author of the post shows up in the same color/format as the post itself, though I admit this is a bit confusing with multiple blog authors.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://kevin.saff.net/2007/01/27/overheard-today-at-starbucks/#comment-1109</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kevin.saff.net/2007/01/27/overheard-today-at-starbucks/#comment-1109</guid>
		<description>I was undecided whether the white areas were for the author (Mark) or for Kevin. Perhaps we could make the author's headshot appear beside his comments? (And I like my 3D-glasses man, thank you.)

John, what makes a religious progressive these days? That concept has changed (progressed?) so much over the last few centuries that I hardly know how to take it, anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was undecided whether the white areas were for the author (Mark) or for Kevin. Perhaps we could make the author&#039;s headshot appear beside his comments? (And I like my 3D-glasses man, thank you.)</p>
<p>John, what makes a religious progressive these days? That concept has changed (progressed?) so much over the last few centuries that I hardly know how to take it, anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://kevin.saff.net/2007/01/27/overheard-today-at-starbucks/#comment-1108</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kevin.saff.net/2007/01/27/overheard-today-at-starbucks/#comment-1108</guid>
		<description>Hey, I'd never heard that one.  And so I laughed. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I&#039;d never heard that one.  And so I laughed. :)</p>
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